Dan is the other half of Wieden and Kennedy. I guess now that Dave’s left he’s all of it. I haven’t had many personal dealings with him, just a phone call or two now and then. He was always back at the ranch. I do know that he has supported young, fresh, creative people in a measure that no one else ever has. He let loonies like Jim Riswold, Stacy Wall, Jelly Helm, and others go out there by themselves, and they brought back genius work. I don’t think there has ever been a better support for young talent. It may be that he didn’t pay them shit, but you don’t need much money to live in Portland.